Why We Don't Need Socialized Medicine How the Middle Class Got Screwed, The Critique 3 months ago   08:34

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This is a rebuttal to the video Why We Need Government-Run Universal Socialized Health Insurance.
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Funky Euphemism
At least the government cannot deny you service. It's not like you could have an emergency and call 911 and they could just decide the fact you pay your "insurance" taxes and fail to cash in when and if an emergency occurs. There is a public duty doctrine emergency services operate under.... Except of course the numerous examples, the most salient being Warren vs. DC where a person called 911 twice while several men were beating and raping her roommate and the first time they sent a police on a non-emergency basis for "potential domestic disturbance" the police drove by but did not even stop to investigate, which prompted the roommate to call again, again report a beating and raping IN PROGRESS and was assured help was on the way, but this second time help was no on the way. They never dispatched police at all. Leading to the lady who called 911, her 12 year old daughter and the roommate who was the initial victim, all 3 were kidnapped, brutally raped and beaten over and over and over for more than hours. And when these women sued the 911 dispatcher who promised help was on the way but never provided the help.... This went to the supreme court who ruled that "the public duty doctrine does not necessarily mean emergency services are under any obligation to provide a particular duty to any particular citizen. even if help was promised"....But insurance companies are evil if they refuse to give you coverage after you are already sick and trying to milk the system because you didn't bother tobuy insurance until you were sick
*IAC*
How is all of your free/affordable HC paid for ⁉️
Maximvs Dread
Wow look at all the dead liberal comments from a bygone era below ... lol ...
I Love Lane County
Staff at hospital where a patient, 85, died after she was given Flash cleaning fluid to drink instead of water 'spoke such poor English they needed translators'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5672295/Staffs-poor-English-ward-patient-died-drinking-cleaning-fluid.html
By Neil Sears for the Daily Mail Published: 18:59 EDT, 29 April 2018 | Updated: 03:58 EDT, 30 April 2018

Staff at a hospital where a patient died after drinking cleaning fluid speak such poor English that they need translators, an inquest heard.

A coroner expressed concern that failing to understand the language could have contributed to a situation which meant Flash was put in a water jug and drunk by Joan Blaber, 85.

The tragedy took place at Royal Sussex County Hospital (Barry Building, Eastern Road, Brighton BN2 5BE, England UK Phone: +44 1273 696955) in September 2017, and led to Mrs Blaber’s death. The hospital admitted it still does not know how the deadly liquid ended up in a water jug.

Police have interviewed 100 medical and cleaning staff to ascertain if a crime has been committed. Officers know who gave her the jug, but said last week they had no plans to charge anyone. A jury will determine what happened at a full inquest later in the year – but further details emerged during a preliminary hearing at Brighton Coroner’s court.
A coroner expressed concern that failing to understand the language could have contributed to a situation which meant Flash was put in a water jug and drunk by Joan Blaber, 85

A coroner expressed concern that failing to understand the language could have contributed to a situation which meant Flash was put in a water jug and drunk by Joan Blaber, 85

Coroner Veronica Hamilton-Deeley said it was ‘very worrying’ that the matter remained unexplained eight months on, and that it still had to be asked if it could happen again.

She said a post-mortem examination revealed the cleaning fluid was a ‘direct cause’ of death, and went on: ‘There is no evidence someone did this deliberately but it lurks on the back of one’s mind because this was such an extraordinary thing to have happened.’

The coroner said she was ‘caused anxiety’ by the fact that some of the staff members involved had to be interviewed by police through interpreters.

She asked: ‘How do you train staff, who may have been able to manage basic communication, in the rather more intricate matters you need to understand when you are handling and dealing with substances which ... are potentially extremely hazardous?’

Detective Inspector Julie Wakeford, of Sussex Police, confirmed a nurse involved in the incident was interviewed in English with the assistance of a Spanish interpreter.

She added that there were no plans for any criminal charges to be brought against any individuals, and ‘insufficient evidence’ to bring a corporate manslaughter charge against the hospital trust.
Police have interviewed 100 medical and cleaning staff to ascertain if a crime has been committed. They know who gave her the jug, but have said they had no plans to charge anyone.

Police have interviewed 100 medical and cleaning staff to ascertain if a crime has been committed. They know who gave her the jug, but have said they had no plans to charge anyone

She said: ‘We believe we have identified the member of staff who placed the water jug at Mrs Blaber’s bedside.

‘We know later when she was given her medication it contained Flash cleaning fluid. We don’t know how it came to be in there.

‘After interviewing 90 to 100 people we are still not any closer to finding the answer to that.’

Lawyer Andrew Perfect, representing Brighton and Sussex University Hospitals NHS Trust, said: ‘We have no idea how it came to pass that cleaning fluid was in a jug that was designed only to hold water.’

In response to fears that other patients could be killed in the same way, Mr Perfect said the cleaning fluid had been removed from the wards and was no longer used by the trust.

The Care Quality Commission has carried out its own investigation which is due to be published this week.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5672295/Staffs-poor-English-ward-patient-died-drinking-cleaning-fluid.html#ixzz5EGPckuVL
Albert Chen
Ratings disabled? If you have the confidence in your own words, why bother to disable them? Also, you could just create the new video explain your idea, you don't need to copy and edit the whole video, then pick on every small words like a 9 years edgy kid.
Mariah Cox
Why do you lie so much?
Brandon Bohrer
Or an easier title would be "Why only the wealthy should be able to afford healthcare."
4imee
to all communist snowflakes freaks who loooove socialsm, only because they live in a capitalist country like US, if you loooooove share then why don't go Veneuela? there is socialist-everything even medicine. Ohhh wait their is not even basic pills and drugs because it collapsed!! people are starving and the beloved socialist goverment don't give a damn because their daily feast until you speak the truth of Venezuela and become a menace for Maduro, run away and POLICE chase you and kill you. How wonderfull isn't it? Don't be an ignorant of the problems of the world because of socialism. People like us, hispanics, tend to believe in all powerfull goverment just to reallize time after time that if there is corruption everywhere, well if a cray cray full of hate like my country's president, here in Bolvia, with unlimited power of EVERYTHING even citizen lifes....decides who lives and dies. IS NOT A GOOD IDEA... MAS=MOVIMIENTO AL SOCIALISMO(movement to socialism) their minister go to NY to bought CAPITALIST apples AND let us with useless tabs. I mean the president have kids everywhere and they're in hunger while he bought car after car. THAT IS SOCIALISM a sort of new monarchy with few rights, poor life condition with the GOV go bigger, the citizen SMALLER.
So heres's my challenge. Go 1 year not a weekend for selfies, a year to any socialist country: Venezuela, Cuba, Bolivia and live here, work here....and then tell me is a good idea, but I'm pretty sure you won't instead will go to US (or your country) and embrace freedom, food and FREEDOM.
Meta tron
You should make a new video defending yourself from your attackers.
Somsubhra Moulick
Please, you dumb capitalist stop presenting your bankrupt brain and get some socialized government aided treatment of your brain. I feel sorry that dumb people like you are destroying the world. You must name your videos HowYourDumbCapitalism Works.
palladini971
I think a bunch of uneducated Idiots made this Video. The best thing the USA could do is go to a single payer system of Health care. You pay taxes, the Federal Government gives that tax money to your State Health System, and they dole it as needed to doctors and Hospitals and Clinics and so on. You Americans think taxes are No go, well, you only need to look at Canada and My case. I am under the care of 3 Doctors, my wife through has a Drug Plan that covers 80% of the cost of the drugs and I take about 12 or 13 drugs a day. And I pay nothing, except that 20% for the drugs.
Yes we pay high taxes in Canada, In Ontario where I live they have what they call a tax freedom day, which means, the date they say, which I think is June 2, 2017, is that is the day, if all the money you made to that date was given to the Government, all the money after that date is yours to keep. this is all Hypothetical of course, but it just published to give you an idea of the taxes we pay
Uncle Ruckus
Your right for the most part but you have misconceptions. Taxation is constitutional and necessary. Your life is different from a car, let’s say you don’t intentionally crash a car and from the beginning of the time since you had that car, it had problems, the insurance company still wouldn’t cover even though it is not your fault. It is not worse care, I spent 3 hours of my life watching economists agree that single payer-healthcare would be a benefit for Canada to pass in 1984. Since then polls have come out that a lot of Canadians love their care. The economist were either apolitical or a mix of conservative and liberal economists.
hapidjus69
You people in the comments complain about being "robbed" to fund a potential universal healthcare system through taxes, yet the insurance companies are the ones bending you over with outrageous deductibles and premiums...but that's OK because insurance profits are more important. Health insurance company's profits are in the billions. Not revenue, I'm talking about pure profit. That's outrageous. Health is a basic human right and everybody should have it. Nobody should profit off of your ability to stay healthy. Every cent put into your wellbeing should be spent on exactly that. If anything should be "socialized", it should be healthcare.
Justin Rosado
I don't think you understand how taxation works
Aj Royal
I thought the post office was losing money because of Congress forcing employees to pay for retirees healthcare?
J King
Why can't you idiots use a web browser. Look up the figures: you die earlier, more of your children die in infancy and the US spends more than any other country in the world on medicine and you get third world health care! You think you don't need health care for all? Health care at less than half the cost? In the UK about 4.3 per thousand babies die in infancy in the US it's 5.3 per thousand. Your child mortality rate is worse than Serbia.(Figures from CIA fact book) Can you be proud of that. Trump went overboard for Charlie Dade if he'd been born in the US he would have been a stiff fast!
Yoya Yutu
// Great! //

It helps A LOT understand THERE IS NO REASON FOR NOT HAVING A SINGLE NATIONAL HEALTH INSURANCE SYSTEM, which, of course, would be non-for-profit and would keep costs to a reasonable and just minimum.
JeremyWK
This is what happens when government controls your healthcare. Universal ("single payer") healthcare gives bureaucrats and judges the authority to decide who is worthy of getting medical treatment, and, ultimately, they decide who lives and dies.
https://fee.org/articles/british-courts-wont-let-these-parents-try-to-save-their-babys-life/
Joseph Gallagher
Mr Doren, do you know economics only?? You seem to be socially illiterate. People actually DIE without healthcare. That is worse than a poor economy. You're pathetic.
Joseph Gallagher
That argument at the end of the video is NOT strawman. Your comparison to the car insurance is strawman.
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